Hi RMS,
Presently I am reading Watson's 'The Double Helix" (for the first time, surprisingly) and enjoying it. I was thinking if someone were to rework the same DNA structure discovery at the present time, what tools probably he/she would have used. And how quickly could have been the same validated again? Whats your opinion?
Rest is all going on as usual.
Take care
Dada
Presently I am reading Watson's 'The Double Helix" (for the first time, surprisingly) and enjoying it. I was thinking if someone were to rework the same DNA structure discovery at the present time, what tools probably he/she would have used. And how quickly could have been the same validated again? Whats your opinion?
Rest is all going on as usual.
Take care
Dada
Dear Dada,
Sorry for replying it late.
Have you ever seen a carpenter making a wooden chips when he makes a furniture. They are coiled and look very much like a DNA structure. I guess any long structure in its relaxed form comes into coiled form which is its stable state (like telephone wire ) in which it can have a stored potential energy exploited to its best (All springs for example). I guess technologies were/are needed to have a rational and logical proof.We prove a theory using technology and we update a technology using some new theories........What do you say?rest is fine
Cheers
Ram
Hi Ram,
I am sorry I missed your mail completely as it came below my text. I thought by mistake you sent a blank mail.
You made a really interesting observation. You are right. Our theories and the technologies they are based on has to evolve to validate new observations. In this aspect wanted to share some things I felt when I attended last to last week an entrepreneurship workshop in bangalore. There you could see what is the business of science. There the charm is in making money out of innovation. That is an entirely new dimension for a scientist I guess. I really couldnt fit myself well in that. But thats a purely personal issue. But those who are into it they have a whole set of new outlooks and understand balance sheets with the same competence as they understand sequencing! Is this also a scientific evolution?
Ok that apart, tell me when are you coming to cbe? Send me the soft copies of the books you need printed, I shall keep them ready. Looking fwd to seeing you soon.
Yours,
Dada
I am sorry I missed your mail completely as it came below my text. I thought by mistake you sent a blank mail.
You made a really interesting observation. You are right. Our theories and the technologies they are based on has to evolve to validate new observations. In this aspect wanted to share some things I felt when I attended last to last week an entrepreneurship workshop in bangalore. There you could see what is the business of science. There the charm is in making money out of innovation. That is an entirely new dimension for a scientist I guess. I really couldnt fit myself well in that. But thats a purely personal issue. But those who are into it they have a whole set of new outlooks and understand balance sheets with the same competence as they understand sequencing! Is this also a scientific evolution?
Ok that apart, tell me when are you coming to cbe? Send me the soft copies of the books you need printed, I shall keep them ready. Looking fwd to seeing you soon.
Yours,
Dada
Dear Dada
Recently I read the book fountainhead by ayn rand and presently I am reading selfish gene and bhagvat gita. my view may be biased towards what I have learned from this books so far.I too am against money making. but let us see what is the benefit of the same I guess there is no Indian scientist who really work on problems. scientist over here work for there livelihood and having publication is the key to there survival and promotion. I have not seen any Indian scientist having thirst to do something, having an area of interest which they want to explore. In this context working for money "spinning money through technology" as they say gives at least gives some competitive environment to them and coz of it they are giving some performance which may have some benefit to nation. one example is that till date govt of India was not having its own BT cotton for farmers but private company .....they are spinning money out of it. where scientist in developing countries who have no cause. spinning money is at least giving some cause to make them lively.and one cant expect more than this in any technology coz the investment given to develop any technology is huge!! kuch returns to milna jaroori hai na!!!Developed countries I guess do science and they dump the technology portion to developing countries we become happy as we get money and they get nice stastical data from countries like us to validate there scientific theories using these technogies. example we are busy in dissemination of BT technology and US gets a data to study the adaptation of insect against the transgenic in a very big land scape (as big as India). so they get the science and we are convinced that we are having the most contemporary technologies!!!! what do you say?I am planning to put these conversation between us in my blog. Rest is fine
Cheers
Ram
Hi RMS,
Yes you are right about the research components we in developing countries get to do. But the point you raised about the large amount of data generated being used by advanced nations as a lab is something I didnt know. Thanks for this. Really worrisome.
About Indian scientists working merely for survival is true and sad. That way the private sector has done something of value and scientific staff though often turned into mere technicians and businessmen (marketting/ sales person) still the results are for us to see.
Here in CSIR DBT ICAR,etc institutes, the amount of money spent is huge. At the same time the output is meagre (often). So my feeling is they have been reduced to employment agencies, where you get jobs, ra srf postions to feed yourself and your family. Thats all. But really thinking I wouldnt mind being part of it as the accountability is so less and i too have to get some job to feed myself and family. And as a trained biotech person i can do the job too. But reality is that we are not making scientists anywhere neither in pvt sector nor in the public funded institutes.
Had a very nice discussion on similar things with Maheswaran Sir on this yesterday evening at his place. Good news is that he and Malarizhi madam are transfered to coimbatore campus.
Bye for now
Dada
Yes you are right about the research components we in developing countries get to do. But the point you raised about the large amount of data generated being used by advanced nations as a lab is something I didnt know. Thanks for this. Really worrisome.
About Indian scientists working merely for survival is true and sad. That way the private sector has done something of value and scientific staff though often turned into mere technicians and businessmen (marketting/ sales person) still the results are for us to see.
Here in CSIR DBT ICAR,etc institutes, the amount of money spent is huge. At the same time the output is meagre (often). So my feeling is they have been reduced to employment agencies, where you get jobs, ra srf postions to feed yourself and your family. Thats all. But really thinking I wouldnt mind being part of it as the accountability is so less and i too have to get some job to feed myself and family. And as a trained biotech person i can do the job too. But reality is that we are not making scientists anywhere neither in pvt sector nor in the public funded institutes.
Had a very nice discussion on similar things with Maheswaran Sir on this yesterday evening at his place. Good news is that he and Malarizhi madam are transfered to coimbatore campus.
Bye for now
Dada
Dear Dada,
The other important thing to discuss ever since I have joined wardha is the concept of equity. All are equals that is what Gandhi has taught over here. I believe equilibrium is death. and discrimination is the one which only few person with knowledge and enlightment possess. After all if every one will do science then You and I will not have any value in future. some times I am happy that others are not thinking in the same grounds in which we think.......let them earn money? These days I am developing interest in politics also.....!your opinion in this regard (equity) please.
Cheers
Ram
